Salus June 4, 2025

Gay

This reminds me of chiropractic care being offered by some chiropractors (but not all). There is chiropractic care where you go three times a week for a period of time. However, nobody’s looking at what’s causing the misalignment. If you’re a healthy individual, why would you suddenly become misaligned?

I don’t want to belabor that point, but I see that this is part of the issue. The issue is not just coming up with an outcome through catharsis, but finding out how to make a better stew.

Bill G

That’s an interesting transition. I don’t think all of us have read the full copy of Making America Healthy Again that just came out. Clearly, you know, RFK and Oz and Bhattacharya would like to change the metaphor. We started out this group talking about how you affect real change.  I think at some point this group ought to give some thought to what’s actually in that document. What is their macro sense of how the metaphor of health care should be changed, because they’ve certainly made an awful lot of good points? Like us, they’ve considered the brokenness and ineffectiveness of our current delivery system. We should consider what is actually reasonable in what they’re proposing. We now have a 500-page document that recently came out in which we can delve. We can determine if there really is some sort of formula for substantive change. This has nothing to do with Trump and Musk. Obviously, this is a much broader discussion about what’s broken in our system of care.

Jeremy

I don’t want necessarily  to be a fan of RFK, because he’s a complex human being, and he has complex ideas. But part of my understanding, as I’m trying to determine if there is a philosophical underpinning, concerns a review of medical history. Pasteur was the father of the microbial sources of disease. There was another fella, who was very anti-Pasteur. He believed that the overall health of the organism determined whether you got ill or not. You hear him talk about vitamin A. You know, his idea of the healthy organism is not dangerous in and of itself.

However, this is one of the reasons they keep bringing up the matter of kids and COVID. Getting COVID is no big deal for kids. However, all of us say that a kid with COVID being near grandma is suddenly a big deal. So, there are sociological reasons to protect children from certain infections. But that is part of the philosophy of the Make America Healthy Again group. They focus on the metabolic aspect. As you’re pointing out, Bill G, there are some positives in the focus on metabolic health, because it’s kind of both. We aren’t going to abandon Pasteur, I hope, although it seems like they’re trying.