August 5, 2026 Salus Health Care Forum

Jeremy

I think there’s really a value to stepping back and reflecting collectively. This is a very masterful grouping of people that happen to collect together and are sharing. And as long as we’re listening to each other and learning from each other, it’s hard to imagine what we are not capable of doing. And I guess that’s part of the pivot we’re in concerns the purpose are we going to collectively activate in ourselves. And in what fashion do we think makes sense? We aren’t going to run marathons to raise money, right? That’s not going to be what we do. But how is it, and what modalities might we engage with? Because there are some lower cost modalities for communication that were not available five years ago. Podcasts, for example, are long-form ways to influence large swaths of people.

And a lot of what we have been focused on is kind of long form engagement. We’re not sound bite people in general. So, is that an opportunity for us? Is this a podcast? I don’t even know.

I mean, we are recording these sessions. But, you know, we’re not up there with Joe Rogan. And I don’t think we want to talk about wrestling every day so that we can get a larger audience.

But what might be a way we want to engage in public dialogue of some kind at some point? I think these are all intriguing questions for us to be exploring as we pivot towards a more proactive, action-oriented process as we move from our theoretical, and architectural frame. We ask what’s wrong with healthcare and what ways might it get better. How do we want to influence things moving forward. And I’m looking forward to how that unfolds.

Mitch

I just go back to mastery for me. Personal mastery is really about developing the space between stimulus and response. All of my readings come down to this understanding. And I love that we started this with an exercise that grows the space between the stimulus and the response. I love that we were working in this space here, growing that. And to exercise that, to show that, to bring that out, to make that a part of our process, I think it’s huge. I think it changes the dynamic. It does something internal.

So, my purpose is to help other physicians and residents to co-regulate by expanding that space between stimulus and response. And therein lies a whole bunch of good things that happen. When I’m just reacting, things don’t go so good. When I am responding from a deep place, all sorts of things are possible that were not possible when I’m reacting. So, I just help people get into that space, which I think we did with this exercise. I think we have a whole different course.

That would just be my two cents and talking about mastery. And I think that meditation does that. I think spiritual things do that. I think the practice, more than anything else, getting into that space, builds that space. And I think that’s what’s needed.

Bill B

Mitch, there’s a whole new emerging field of behavioral economy, which is about what happens in the space between stimulus and response. Daniel Kahneman, who sadly passed away recently, would talk about slow thinking. How do we begin to slowly process, rather than, as you say, react, rely on heuristics, engage in fast thinking. That focus on the space is such an emerging focus, that even in the field of economics this is becoming a growing emphasis. A revolution is occurring in that field. They’re now studying what’s happened between the stimulus and the response in the fields of economics and finance, I think this is very powerful.

And so, Mitch you’re saying that maybe some of that should occur in healthcare.